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Over the years I've done various density and walkability calculations, estimating that the required density could go as low as 4000 people/km2 (8000 people in a 12 minute walk) or even 3000 people/km2 (9000 people in a 15 minute walk.) But in the literature, messy as it is, it seems more like 10 du (dwelling units)/acre is the expected minimum, which at 2.6 people/du is more like 6500 people/km2. So I want to poke at my assumptions.

Summary: yeah, my old assumptions were flawed, and I'm now looking at closer to 10,000 people/km2 for good walkable density. Data indicates you start getting more walking before that, like 5000/km2, but it levels off above 10,000, possibly because all the trips it is easy to make walkable, have been made walkble. And per older posts, you can reach these densities with single-family housing if you insist, though you'll need to accept small lots and yards.

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There are other benefits to higher density, of course: more taxpayers to pay for infrastructure, more riders to justify high transit frequency, letting more people live close to attractive points like subway stations, letting people have more and more interesting lives in walking or biking distance. But in terms of reducing car trips in favor of walking, the low-hanging fruit gets plucked by 10,000.

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Various sources point to a minimum level of population density needed for walkability. A source I have lost said 10-20 dwelling units (du) per acre. This Australian model derived 25 du/hectare (2500 du/km2), which is the same as 10 du/acre, as a minimum, though 35 was notably better. At an assumption (as the paper used) of 2.6 people per du, 25 du/hectare is 6500 people/km2, 35 is 9100. My own personal experience, of places I have lived and looked up the densities of, is that nice walkability starts around 9000 people/m2, while 6000 tends to be doable but a bit anemic.

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And in reality, there is no reason for housing to be so uniform. Left alone, people would naturally build taller and live denser near high value locations like train stations, so walkability can be supported by a mix of SFH and multifamily/rental housing. But it's good to know that you can support it with pure SFH too... as long as you allow small lots.

Though it also means that bigger lots that don't support bigger households (via large household or various rental units) are kind of free-riding on higher density elsewhere, if the inhabitants enjoy walkability.

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Followup to my old urban densities. All numbers from city-data unless otherwise noted. Units are people per square kilometer. I believe walkability starts being practical around 6000/km2, though that also depends on people actually opening businesses.

Neighborhoods are selected mostly because I've personally experienced them, with a few exceptions.

Albany Park Chicago, 9186
Logan Square Chicago, 8944

Castro SF, 9914
Central Richmond SF, 11867
Chinatown SF, 19657
Chinatown SF, 29,000 (lost source)
Chinatown SF, 100,000 (wikipedia math)
Inner Richmond SF, 12351
Mission SF, 11610
Nob Hill, 22631
Outer Richmond SF, 6272
Outer Sunset SF, 6050
Telegraph Hill SF, 15474
Tenderloin, 16340

Agassiz (south of Porter Square) Cambridge, 6770
Riverside Cambridge, 13601 (not that good an area)
North Cambridge, 6396

Davis Square Somerville 18757 (but 4000 people)
Powderhouse Somerville, 10422 (not that good an area)

Georgetown DC, 4031 (that's it???)

Waterfront/North End Boston, 13164
Chinatown Boston 15090
North End Boston, 10688 (wikipedia)

Paris 11th arrondisement, 41,000 (wikipedia?)

Greenwich Village, 29539
Chinatown NYC, 34749
Upper West Side NYC 42,000
Harlem, 32670

Fishtown Philly 9887
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3rd in a series, previous is here.

kchoze had said the US has 8000-12000 people per supermarket, so I've been using 12,000 to be conservative. But a casual websearch turned up the US having 38,000 "supermarkets", or one per 8400 people. Say 8000. Then a density of 8000 people/km2 is walkable like 12,000, one market per square kilometer. And we can apply the checkerboard trick of the previous post, so that even 4,000/km2 has no one more than a kilometer from a supermarket.

There's a simpler approach: instead of thinking in squares, because they're easy to lay out, think in diamonds, the 'circle' equivalent for a grid, all the locations within X distance of a point. If r is the distance from a center to the corner of a diamond/square, the area is 2r^2. So a diamond of 1 km 'radius', trip length, around a supermarket, has area of 2 km2, thus 8000 people at a density of 4,000/km2.

kchoze, and a couple more websearches, indicate that both the US and Japan have a bit over 2000 people per convenience store. If we assume a max of 6 minutes or 0.5 km for a 'convenient' walk, then there's an area of 0.5 km2, or 2000 people at the 4000 density. Just enough to support it, maybe. If we want a 4 minute walk, that needs a density of 9000 people/km2 to get 2000 people. For 2 minutes, like a real 'corner store', you'd need a density of 36,000 people/km2.

Anyway, that seems to be a couple different approaches pointing to a local density of 4000/km2 being the bare minimum for walkability, if laid out just right, with respect to supermarkets and corner/convenience stores. If you want lower density without much car use, make sure people feel safe biking, e.g. by making sure any cars can't go fast. And if you want robust walkability, go higher -- 6000-12000.

I'm not sure about supermarkets in Japan. One source says 5000, so 24,000 people each; another says 20,000, for 6,000 people each. A source has 2384 supermarkets in Canada, for nearly 16,000 people each. Definitions of 'supermarket' may vary.

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